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Oct 11, 2006 · 98_forester_s. 29 posts · Joined 2014. #10 · Jul 10, 2014. I have a 98 Forester S and am also getting poor mileage (about 18) and that's 99% back roads (little to no stops). I'm very easy on the petal because I want the best possible mileage, but whether its petal to the floor or feather weight, nothing changes. . Computer repair

Fuel economy of the 2013 Subaru Forester AWD. 1984 to present Buyer's Guide to Fuel Efficient Cars and Trucks. Estimates of gas mileage, greenhouse gas emissions, safety ratings, and air pollution ratings for new and used cars and trucks.Estimates of gas mileage, greenhouse gas emissions, safety ratings, and air pollution ratings for new and used cars and trucks. ... Greenhouse Gas Emissions (tailpipe) 2004 Subaru Forester AWD 2.5 L, 4 cyl, Automatic 4-spd, Regular Gasoline: 21: MPG 19: 25: combined city/hwy city: hwy: 4.8 gal/100 mi ...The most accurate 2011 Subaru Foresters MPG estimates based on real world results of 6.7 million miles driven in 232 Subaru Foresters ... 2011 Subaru Forester X Limited 2.5L H4 GAS Automatic 4 Speed Sport Utility Added Jan 2024 • 6 Fuel-ups. Property of GassGuzzler . 22.9 Avg MPG. My Forester.Cost to Fill the Tank. $54. Tank Size. 16.6 gallons. *Based on 45% highway, 55% city driving, 15,000 annual miles and current fuel prices. Personalize. MSRP and tank size data provided by Edmunds.com, Inc. Range on a tank and refueling costs assume 100% of fuel in tank will be used before refueling. 2024 Subaru Forester Wilderness AWD.Dec 31, 2014 · 12734 posts · Joined 2013. #2 · Dec 31, 2014. Cold air will do more to your fuel economy than just make your engine cold when parked. Check your tire pressure, since that drops when the air temperature does. Other things to factor in are winter blend fuel, increased drag from dense air, etc. Oct 14, 2023 ... Going All The Way! Subaru Outback Range and Fuel Economy Test - 35 MPG?! · Comments2.Just under three hours from San Francisco, 730 acres of redwood forest will open to the public for the very first time as the Harold Richardson Redwoods Reserve in 2021. Just under...Nov 20, 2020 ... See the details on the real world world fuel economy miles per gallon on a 2021 Subaru Forester Limited on a recent road trip I took by ...The most accurate 2015 Subaru Foresters MPG estimates based on real world results of 15.6 million miles driven in 502 Subaru Foresters ... 2015 Subaru Forester 2.5i 2,5L H4 GAS Automatic CVT Added Aug 2015 • 287 Fuel-ups. Property of Vldvv . …Highway MPG: 21. highway. 5.3 gals/ 100 miles. 2004 Subaru Forester AWD 4 cyl, 2.5 L, Automatic 4-spd. Regular Gasoline.2017 Subaru Forester AWD. Personalize. Add a Vehicle. 2.5 L, 4 cyl, Automatic (variable gear ratios) MSRP: $22,595 - $34,295. 2017 Subaru Forester AWD. EPA Fuel Economy.Highway MPG: 25. highway. 4.8 gals/ 100 miles. 2008 Subaru Forester AWD 4 cyl, 2.5 L, Manual 5-spd. Regular Gasoline. View Estimates.Fuel economy of the 2000 subaru forester. 1984 to present Buyer's Guide to Fuel Efficient Cars and Trucks. 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Greenhouse Gas Emissions (tailpipe) 2023 Subaru Forester AWD 2.5 L, 4 cyl, Automatic (AV-S7), Regular Gasoline: 29: MPG 26: 33: combined city/hwy city: hwy: 3.4 gal/100 mi ...However when I'm driving down the interstate going 75-80 MPH my fuel economy drops to 24-28 MPG and can usually get 27/28 consistently setting the cruise …Dec 31, 2014 · 12734 posts · Joined 2013. #2 · Dec 31, 2014. Cold air will do more to your fuel economy than just make your engine cold when parked. Check your tire pressure, since that drops when the air temperature does. Other things to factor in are winter blend fuel, increased drag from dense air, etc. The 2022 Subaru Forester 2.5i has a 63 L fuel tank and requires Unleaded. Natural Resources Canada estimates that the 2022 Subaru Forester will use about 9.0 L/100km when you drive in the city and ...Old-growth forests, home to ancient trees, are found in Chattahoochee National Forest, Georgia; Tongass National Forest, Alaska; and Jedediah Redwoods State Park, California. I gre...Fuel economy of the 2018 Subaru Forester. 1984 to present Buyer's Guide to Fuel Efficient Cars and Trucks. Estimates of gas mileage, greenhouse gas emissions, safety ratings, and air pollution ratings for new and used cars and trucks.Used 2016 Subaru Forester. MPG & Gas Mileage Data. Change vehicle. 1 of 424. Your Driving Habits. 55 %. City. 45 %. Highway.11.0 barrels/yr. 331 grams/mile. 356 miles. Total Range. Page 1. Make: Subaru. (Showing 1 to 10 of 24 vehicles) Fuel economy of the 2018 Subaru Forester AWD. 1984 to present Buyer's Guide to Fuel Efficient Cars and Trucks. Estimates of gas mileage, greenhouse gas emissions, safety ratings, and air pollution ratings for new and used cars and trucks.2014 Subaru Forester AWD EPA Fuel Economy Regular Gasoline Combined MPG: 27: MPG City MPG: 24: Highway MPG: 31: combined city/highway: city: highway: 3.7 gal/100mi 429 miles Total Range. MPG estimates for 2016 and older vehicles may have been revised Learn more ...2017 Subaru Forester 2.5i Manual Specs #10 out of 18 in 2017 Affordable Compact SUVs. Review; Photos; Cars for Sale; Configurations; Reliability; Review; Photos; Cars for Sale; ... EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG) 28: Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx (gal.) 15.9: Suspension. Suspension Type - Front: Strut: Suspension Type …The 2022 Subaru Forester 2.5i has a 63 L fuel tank and requires Unleaded. Natural Resources Canada estimates that the 2022 Subaru Forester will use about 9.0 L/100km when you drive in the city and ...The most accurate 2011 Subaru Foresters MPG estimates based on real world results of 6.7 million miles driven in 232 Subaru Foresters ... 2011 Subaru Forester X Limited 2.5L H4 GAS Automatic 4 Speed Sport Utility Added Jan 2024 • 6 Fuel-ups. Property of GassGuzzler . 22.9 Avg MPG. My Forester.2016 Subaru Forester AWD EPA Fuel Economy Premium Gasoline Combined MPG: 25: MPG City MPG: 23: Highway MPG: 27: combined city/highway: city: highway: 4.0 gal/100mi 398 miles Total Range. MPG estimates for 2016 and older vehicles may have been revised Learn more: View Original EPA MPG: Unofficial MPG Estimates from Vehicle Owners ...Jan 30, 2011 · I too have a new '11 Forester and am getting disappointingly low MPG's... First time I averaged (eyeballing half a tank in my car) about 15.8 mpg's. Later almost a month later I was getting like 21~22 mpg's. I too am very disappointed with these low numbers. My parents have an 2010 Outback that gives better MPG's. Highway MPG: 31. highway. 3.8 gals/ 100 miles. 2022 Subaru Impreza 5-Door 4 cyl, 2.0 L, Automatic (AV-S7) Regular Gasoline. Not Available. The 2021 Subaru Forester is one of the best compact SUVs with better fuel economy than most of its competitors of the same segment. It gets high gas mileage, has a smooth ride, and can go off-road lightly. The 2.5-liter flat-four cylinder engine in all Forester versions produces 182 horsepower and has a towing capacity of 1500 pounds.Highway MPG: 27. highway. 4.3 gals/ 100 miles. 2013 Subaru Forester AWD 4 cyl, 2.5 L, Automatic (S4) Regular Gasoline. View Estimates.The Forester has an EPA fuel mileage estimate of 26/33 city/highway mpg and 29 combined mpg. How does it stack up against the competition in real-world testing ? In CR’s testing, they achieved ...To actually calculate the gas mileage, fill the car up and reset the trip odometer. Then next time you fill up after this, divide the trip odometer reading by how many gallons you put in. 1/8th full is likely close to around 9-10 gallons used (so probably closer to around 15-18 mpg). Refilling with the light on will probably only let you put in ...10.6 barrels/yr. 321 grams/mile. 370 miles. Total Range. Page 1. Make: Subaru. (Showing 1 to 10 of 21 vehicles) Fuel economy of the 2015 Subaru Forester AWD. 1984 to present Buyer's Guide to Fuel Efficient Cars and Trucks. Estimates of gas mileage, greenhouse gas emissions, safety ratings, and air pollution ratings for new and used cars and trucks.Fuel economy of the 2015 Subaru Forester AWD. 1984 to present Buyer's Guide to Fuel Efficient Cars and Trucks. Estimates of gas mileage, greenhouse gas emissions, safety ratings, and air pollution ratings for new and used cars and trucks. Used 2020 Subaru Forester. MPG & Gas Mileage Data. Change vehicle. 1 of 143. Select Model. Please enter a valid zip code. Miles per Year. Your Driving Habits. 55 %. Estimates of gas mileage, greenhouse gas emissions, safety ratings, and air pollution ratings for new and used cars and trucks. ... Greenhouse Gas Emissions (tailpipe) 2023 Subaru Forester AWD 2.5 L, 4 cyl, Automatic (AV-S7), Regular Gasoline: 29: MPG 26: 33: combined city/hwy city: hwy: 3.4 gal/100 mi ...Definitely winter gas takes it's toll on fuel economy. Everyone has their opinions about the best gas, try to stick to one brand. Since I've switched to using Shell, I've noticed an increase in kilometers per tankful. Honestly I don't think about the fuel economy to much, I like to think of the Forester getting miles per smiles. :biggrin:The most recent fill-up of my 2019 Forester Premium (2,700 miles to date) showed 25.9 mpg (mostly around town driving, in winter weather). A recent 900-mile round-trip (mostly highway) produced 31.9 mpg. The mileage was steadily improving since delivery -- until a cold spell arrived, along with different tires.GeoJosh. 12734 posts · Joined 2013. #3 · Jul 1, 2014. Push the button button/stick left of the tachometer to cycle between trip A and trip B. When you are on the one you want to reset, press and hold the button/stick until it resets. Lifted 2014 XT Touring Ice Silver .We can help you calculate and track your fuel economy. MPG Estimates from Others; MPG estimates from drivers like you! Advanced Cars & Fuels. ... 2017 Subaru Forester. EPA MPG Owner MPG Estimates 2017 Subaru Forester AWD 4 cyl, 2.0 L, Automatic (AV-S8) Premium Gasoline: View Estimates ...Subaru engines have a radiator and water channel design that uses pumped and pressurized coolant to stabilize its internal temperature. Unlike most internal combustion engines, ins...Detailed specs and features for the Used 2012 Subaru Forester 2.5X Premium including dimensions, horsepower, engine, capacity, fuel economy, transmission, engine type, cylinders, drivetrain and more. Cost to Fill the Tank. $54. Tank Size. 16.6 gallons. *Based on 45% highway, 55% city driving, 15,000 annual miles and current fuel prices. Personalize. MSRP and tank size data provided by Edmunds.com, Inc. Range on a tank and refueling costs assume 100% of fuel in tank will be used before refueling. 2020 Subaru Forester AWD. GeoJosh. 12734 posts · Joined 2013. #3 · Jul 1, 2014. Push the button button/stick left of the tachometer to cycle between trip A and trip B. When you are on the one you want to reset, press and hold the button/stick until it resets. Lifted 2014 XT Touring Ice Silver .YoGeorge said: My '09 Forester (2.5X with a stick) got about 25 mpg on the road at 76 (which is the correct speed for a 70 mph posted road). Our '17 Foz will get over 30 mpg at 70-75 mph and that shows the mileage advantages of the CVT. ... in combination with the increased efficiency of the FB engine compared to EJ. The most accurate 2018 Subaru Foresters MPG estimates based on real world results of 8.0 million miles driven in ... 2018 Subaru Forester 2.5i 2.5L H4 GAS Manual 6 ... Fuel economy of the 2015 Subaru Forester AWD. 1984 to present Buyer's Guide to Fuel Efficient Cars and Trucks. Estimates of gas mileage, greenhouse gas emissions, safety ratings, and air pollution ratings for new and used cars and trucks.Here are Money's picks for the best SUVs for fuel efficiency, including the Kia's EV 6, Niro Hybrid and Sportage, plus the Nissan Kicks. By clicking "TRY IT", I agree to receive ne...I've owned 1999, 2003 and 2009 Foresters and they all got between 22 and 25 mpg and on secondary roads i'd get around 25 mpg and driving hard on the interstate 75-80 it drops to 22 or 21 mpg. I've put miles on those vehicles at the rate of 90,000, 225,000 and the 2009 now has 389,800. Consistent mileage of 22-25.When it comes to choosing a versatile and reliable SUV, Subaru has long been a top contender. With their reputation for safety, durability, and off-road capabilities, the Subaru Ou...Detailed specs and features for the Used 2012 Subaru Forester 2.5X Premium including dimensions, horsepower, engine, capacity, fuel economy, transmission, engine type, cylinders, drivetrain and more.Fuel economy of the 2017 Subaru Forester. 1984 to present Buyer's Guide to Fuel Efficient Cars and Trucks. Estimates of gas mileage, greenhouse gas emissions, safety ratings, and air pollution ratings for new and used cars and trucks. Highway MPG: 31. highway. 3.8 gals/ 100 miles. 2022 Subaru Impreza 5-Door 4 cyl, 2.0 L, Automatic (AV-S7) Regular Gasoline. Not Available. How We Test the Subaru Forester Fuel Economy. Daily Motor ‘s real-world 2020 Subaru Forester mpg test consists of over 100 miles of consistent highway driving. We fill the vehicle using the “three-click method,” meaning running the gas pump on high flow until it clicks, waiting ten seconds, running an easy, low flow until it clicks again ...The car gets 29 mpg, which CR said is the top fuel economy for a non-hybrid SUV with all-wheel drive. ... Starting at about $27,000, the Subaru Forester is a …Currently, the price of gas in Washington state hovers around $4 per gallon. With this high price, it is important to remember to keep track of mileage. State employees follow guid... Tailpipe Emissions. 5.3 tons CO 2. Forester 2.5i Touring PZEV. vs. 6 tons. Avg. Midsize SUV. Yearly estimate based on your driving miles. Learn more about 2014 Subaru Forester. See all for sale. I've also a hard time believing that increased automated use of alternator would cause a 4 mpg drop in fuel economy. Luck . 1999 Forester "L" -- 233,000 miles. Reactions: imapep. ... We’re the best Subaru Forester Owners Forum to talk about the best years of the Subaru Forester, modifications and reliability history of the Subaru …C/D FUEL ECONOMY Observed: 22 mpg 75-mph Highway Driving: 28 mpg Highway Range: 460 mi. EPA FUEL ECONOMY Combined/City/Highway: 26/25/28 mpg. C/D …Cost to Fill the Tank. $55. Tank Size. 16.9 gallons. *Based on 45% highway, 55% city driving, 15,000 annual miles and current fuel prices. Personalize. MSRP and tank size data provided by Edmunds.com, Inc. Range on a tank and refueling costs assume 100% of fuel in tank will be used before refueling. 2009 Subaru Forester AWD.Feb 17, 2023 · 6. Old or incorrect engine oil. Using the wrong type of engine oil or not changing the engine oil on time can lead to decreased fuel efficiency and reduced gas mileage in Forester. Engine oil is responsible for lubricating the engine components and reducing friction, which can improve fuel efficiency. The good news is the Forester has a posted average fuel economy of 8.2 L/100 km and an annual fuel cost of $2,378. The Wilderness has slightly higher numbers — 9.0 L/100 km and $2,610, respectively.Estimates of gas mileage, greenhouse gas emissions, safety ratings, and air pollution ratings for new and used cars and trucks. ... Greenhouse Gas Emissions (tailpipe) 2011 Subaru Forester AWD 2.5 L, 4 cyl, Manual 5-spd, Regular Gasoline: 23: MPG 21: 27: combined city/hwy city: hwy: 4.3 gal/100 mi ...Just under three hours from San Francisco, 730 acres of redwood forest will open to the public for the very first time as the Harold Richardson Redwoods Reserve in 2021. Just under...YoGeorge said: My '09 Forester (2.5X with a stick) got about 25 mpg on the road at 76 (which is the correct speed for a 70 mph posted road). Our '17 Foz will get over 30 mpg at 70-75 mph and that shows the mileage advantages of the CVT. ... in combination with the increased efficiency of the FB engine compared to EJ.The Subaru Forester is a popular choice among families and outdoor enthusiasts alike. Known for its reliability, versatility, and off-road capabilities, the Forester also excels in...The good news is the Forester has a posted average fuel economy of 8.2 L/100 km and an annual fuel cost of $2,378. The Wilderness has slightly higher numbers — 9.0 L/100 km and $2,610, respectively.Beluga. 833 posts · Joined 2014. #5 · Jul 6, 2018. For around 26k miles, my best tank was around 26MPG (all highway, but high speed and always S#) and lowest was 14MPG (all Chicago downtown driving). I can easy get low 30's if I stay around 60-65MPH, even in S#, very good for 250HP box with 8.7" ground clearance.Subaru Forester MPG. 5,770 Subaru Foresters have provided 140.9 million miles of real world fuel economy & MPG data. Click here to view all the Subaru Foresters currently …11.0 barrels/yr. 331 grams/mile. 356 miles. Total Range. Page 1. Make: Subaru. (Showing 1 to 10 of 24 vehicles) Fuel economy of the 2018 Subaru Forester AWD. 1984 to present Buyer's Guide to Fuel Efficient Cars and Trucks. Estimates of gas mileage, greenhouse gas emissions, safety ratings, and air pollution ratings for new and used cars and trucks.Based on data from 241 vehicles, 18,074 fuel-ups and 5,384,346 miles of driving, the 2020 Subaru Forester gets a combined Avg MPG of 25.96 with a 0.07 MPG margin of error. …16MPG convert to 14.7l/100km. Actually my 2010 Forester do show similar level of Fuel consumption. still big headache for me. but my car does not show any fault light in the dashboard incl. P0420. I’ve replaced both O2 sensors so I guess the only thing left is the catalytic converter. Used 2018 Subaru Forester. MPG & Gas Mileage Data. Change vehicle. 1 of 199. Select Model. Please enter a valid zip code. Miles per Year. Your Driving Habits. 55 %. Used 2018 Subaru Forester. MPG & Gas Mileage Data. Change vehicle. 1 of 199. Select Model. Please enter a valid zip code. Miles per Year. Your Driving Habits. 55 %. Detailed specs and features for the Used 2006 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Premium Package including dimensions, horsepower, engine, capacity, fuel economy, transmission, engine type, cylinders ...Fuel economy of the 2006 Subaru Forester AWD. 1984 to present Buyer's Guide to Fuel Efficient Cars and Trucks. Estimates of gas mileage, greenhouse gas emissions, safety ratings, and air pollution ratings for new and used cars and trucks.Jul 18, 2019 ... something when calculating with gallons at the pump divided by the miles. The average mpg for the Subaru Forester should have been 26/33 mpg ...In the city, the 2024 Forester gas mileage is from 25 to 26 miles per gallon, depending on the trim. On the highway, the 2024 Forester gas mileage is from …

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2022 Subaru Forester AWD EPA Fuel Economy Regular Gasoline Combined MPG: 29: MPG City MPG: 26: Highway MPG: 33: combined city/highway: city: highway: 3.4 gal/100mi 481 miles Total Range. Unofficial MPG Estimates from Vehicle Owners. Learn more about "My …City MPG: 22. city. Highway MPG: 28. highway. 4.0 gals/ 100 miles. 2016 Subaru Forester AWD 4 cyl, 2.5 L, Automatic (variable gear ratios) Regular Gasoline. View Estimates.Oct 14, 2023 ... Going All The Way! Subaru Outback Range and Fuel Economy Test - 35 MPG?! · Comments2.Compare the fuel efficiency and cost to drive of the 2022 Subaru Forester with other midsize SUVs. See the estimated combined, city and highway MPG, tailpipe emissions …The car gets 29 mpg, which CR said is the top fuel economy for a non-hybrid SUV with all-wheel drive. ... Starting at about $27,000, the Subaru Forester is a …Based on data from 241 vehicles, 18,074 fuel-ups and 5,384,346 miles of driving, the 2020 Subaru Forester gets a combined Avg MPG of 25.96 with a 0.07 MPG margin of error. … 2022 Subaru Forester Wilderness AWD. Personalize. Add a Vehicle. 2.5 L, 4 cyl, Automatic (AV-S8) MSRP: $33,520. 2022 Subaru Forester Wilderness AWD. EPA Fuel Economy. The IRS just updated the standard mileage rates for 2021. The big change from last year to this year is a drop of 1.5 cents in the per mile rate. Standard mileage rates for 2021 ha...The 2014 Can Am Spyder has an average gas mileage of 36.5 mpg. The exact specifications, however, tend to vary with weather conditions, terrain and rider habits. The Can Am Spyder ...2023 Subaru Forester MPG. Based on data from 91 vehicles, 1,843 fuel-ups and 545,360 miles of driving, the 2023 Subaru Forester gets a combined Avg MPG of 25.54 with a … Fuel Economy Guides; ... Save Money & Fuel. Gas Mileage Tips; ... Owner MPG Estimates 2001 Subaru Forester AWD 4 cyl, 2.5 L, Automatic 4-spd The most accurate 2010 Subaru Foresters MPG estimates based on real world results of 8.5 million miles driven in 296 Subaru Foresters ... 2010 Subaru Forester X Limited 2.5L H4 GAS Automatic 4 Speed Sport Utility Added Feb 2022 • 92 Fuel-ups. Property of exapno . …Subaru engines have a radiator and water channel design that uses pumped and pressurized coolant to stabilize its internal temperature. Unlike most internal combustion engines, ins...Detailed specs and features for the Used 2012 Subaru Forester 2.5X Premium including dimensions, horsepower, engine, capacity, fuel economy, transmission, engine type, cylinders, drivetrain and more..

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